Thursday, October 6, 2011

ya win some you lose some

"I'm fighting
so I can die a martyr
 and go to heaven
to meet God.
 Our fight
now
  is against the Americans."

 - Osama bin Laden

11 comments:

J said...
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Perezoso said...

really helping out with Christ's message there,jh

maybejoin the jews ,since you know shit about Christianity

jh said...

christians are instructed to love and pray for their enemies i'm just so deighted that mr bin laden has provided this wonderful opportunity

we are jews

jh

Perezoso said...

Yes, that's true----and the killing of OBL was rather dubious. But the quote reads as approval of..OBL's tactics.

No, we aren't all jews.
Logos isn't part of the OT.

jh said...

the qoute is just a quote
what one man said
a man who now is dead

the word become flesh
is a very jewish idea

Perezoso said...

Logos....very greek idea. The language it was written in, as with the rest of the Gospels

The word probably not in aramaic, as with many greek terms (ie, hebrew was not a language until 4-5 AD--more like a dialect, if that)

jh said...

the semitic word
dabar
is directly translated
but
for more nuanced

a whole new set of principles defined the hebrew language (deriving of course from syro-phoenecian) starting as early as 1000 BC
the language of revelation
the language of shared purpose
the language of history being lived toward a goal

the hebrews had a full cultural identity and a distinctiveness by 600 BC
the core of this identity was a religious focus quite unique and quite distinct from everything else the world around

we are jews
bad jews
but jews nonetheless

sally said...

ok
i guess i'll have to start
thinking of myself now
as a buddist-presbyterian-catholic jew

maybe someday i'll be a muslim too

for the moment its hard enough
to work out how to be catholic
without breaking communion
with my presbyterian brothers and sisters

i suppose its not such a problem
to maintain communion
with my evangelical friends
because they so rarely celebrate communion
i might never come across
a situation where i would
have to refrain from partaking

in other news
i just spent two hours
shelling acorns
i came across a big fat grub
in one of them
and smaller grubs in a few others

i threw those out
but i suppose there are people
in other parts of the world
who eat those things

tomorrow i will grind the nuts into flour
and make this year's batch
of acorn bread

i think this will be my new
october tradition
instead of carving pumpkins
i will make acorn bread

then again
there is something therapeutic
about squeezing pumpkin goop
through one's fingers

jh said...

just the mention of acorn bread
sets saliva working in my mouth
my memory of it comes as a moment
so sweet
my father ate the lions share of it
the portion that came to me
and he loved it

grubs with garlic in saute'
hmnh not bad

what is good
we shall embrace it
what is true
we shall sing it
what is beautiful
we shall admire it
with a deep awe

hey i can't post a comment on
stolen poems
anyone have any advice
i get rejected as not
a follower
even though i'm up there
as a follower

love suffers all things

jh

Perezoso said...

what sort of poet values semitic dogma over...the Iliad? EzraPound would call you some puritan-zionist sort,or worse.

Logos is.... reason and light. Dabar--
like goatherd-speak

jh said...

jewish verse has proven itself far more durable than anything greek

i once listened to the illiad on tape on a long road trip
man o man i thought to myself
those folks were sort of obsessed with killing killing killing but at least they told the stories and wrote the poems

the illiad ends in a miasma of faint hope closer to despair
the trend in jewish writing and in the christian parallels was always more hopeful more hope more hope

i am presently trudging through the 20th century odyssey - a modern sequel by nikos kazantakis

that guy was amazing - not Odyseus (who also was) i mean nikos

p your hard view of the world and thinking and writing is still a pain in the ass no matter who you claim to be

after bin laden was killed the word went out and many people in catholic circles preached that christians do not rejoice in the murder of anyone...and we prayed for the repose of his soul

yeah
i guess we are fools above all

smiley face

jh